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to endorse the 3b option on 11th street and grandfathering 34,011th street only. >> commissioner antonini. >>> no. >> hillis yes. >> commissioner sugayaa eye, commissioner fong no. >> that move passes for to three with commissioners antonini, hillis and fong voting against. so i'm want to go make a motion for 113. commissioner sugayaa. >> yeah, i would like to include some language that -- but i do not want to support the language that says we support continued evaluation and the one that is supported by staff and i'm perfectally willing to acknowledge that the process is under way and that we recognize that this process is under way. >>> second. >> commissioner antonini. >>> i would prefer staff language and i think if i'm not missustain, it was objective one 1.5 is that correct? language that makes it quite clear that there is a process already gone gun and that is one that we should be focusing on and while we are improving the shrinkage or down zoning of that area in this plan that we have our eyes forward to that and it doesn't say it's a preferred option and it
. >> seeing no further public comment, public comment is closed commissioner antonini. >> well i'm certainly fine with hearing it want to but if we can't there is always a chance that we can be continued if we don't hear it at all tonight there is no chance that it will be resolved tonight and so that is up to the project sponsors and others involved if they want to go through with it. >> one option is we could take i guess you have to call the item and say public comment and say that is the only other option i think we have and but, i understand people's desire who have been waiting here all day and unfortunately that has happened on occasion and you know, there is unfortunately not a certainty of a particular time when a project is heard, i do encourage you may not know this but i do encourage members of public, we are televised and you can find us on s f governor to have been.com come and i'll tell you to follow the items and you cannot predict the length of the items but you can see the progression a little bit because i know it's hard to give up an entire day the question that i have
commissioner antonini. >>> no. >> borden, aye, hillis, commissioners that passes with six to one with commissioner antonini voting against. >>> yeah, the s pc resolution, is transmitted to us by the hp c now do we need too take action of some kind on this or do you want us to acknowledge it? >>> you are not required to take any action, the recommendation that they passed is to the board of supervisor but it's here for you to include it or make recommendations. >> no, i think we have taken acon one of their recommendations which, is to provide land use for prop that are to the of local landmark stot and expand on that and the last bullet are technical changes to the code and the other ones are more policy related and so, i think we are all well and good i don't know if we really need too take specific axon it. >> if i can just point out really quickly, if any of the recommendations specifically related to the area plan, for the amendment to the general area plan if you wanted to adopt any of those, if we don't dhaip now if the board of supervisors changes the proposal for
to work on that aspect of the design. >>> commissioner antonini. >> thank you, i think it's a wonderful project and probably the first that we have seen of it's size that combines a very large commercial building with a residential building and is the epitome of having people working downtown and living downtown and most of the benefit have been stated and i think it's a beautiful design but i'll speak in favor the five-yarr entitlement because my guess is that the measure 1.5 in the t cd p plan that allows for the longer entitlement period is designed to their specificity and i think that although this is about 95,000 square feet short of that $500,000, 500,000 square feet, the overall building is far more than that and the complexity is very complex because you have got go down 65 feet. you have all of the responsibility of shoring against the train box that is being built for the rail extension and if you ever if you ever have a large very complex approval process and very heavy liability concerns, i can't think of a project that would be more difficult than this one w
further public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >>> i agree with gym meek coand i'm impressed with the individualization of the buildings and break it up and makes it look like anything else we have seen and i like the industrial elements on exterior and how they support the building and they do have a feel that they block belong to the south of mark and a couple of thing that i would improve upon and continue to work on staff upon is the design on the larger streets and take some clues from the industrial buildings and urn sonoma and the the strength of the corner and is the visual large windows with a lattice exterior which we see so often on garage and is industrial buildings there and also the use of arduouses is often what you see in those areas and those are element that is we will be able to put in which will further individualize the buildings and if we had a few of those elements in their own genre that would be great and i'm not sure that i like the color of the one that has red or pink on the outside but that is something that can b
of quick comments and we are in the middle of a motion. >> commissioner antonini. >>> yeah, air force question for mr. tig, in regards to the individually eligible -- individual properties now two questions first of all,, i heard you say something about north of harrison it seems it to me, that they should be eligible anywhere in the district including the area south but most of them are north and north of hair south but it it would seem to me that the whole point is allow them the flexibility to develop what they need to be viable and if they happen to be in a district that is more restricted than it used to to be i'm to the sure what you are saying in your proposal. >> sure so again, that the s o i and to a even greater extent sally even though's not a pd r district it's designed to function as a pd r district and to a great end decent the neighborhoods were not granted the same fleck act for historic buildings because of competing goals and the preserve thing the competing goals in that district went out and that was the proposal in had area too is that one of the incidentses b
jobs for people and a great product. >> commissioner antonini. >>> i appreciate the story that mr. hansen told us about his grandfather andy anderson and remind me about stories from my grasped father how businesses were started by someone who gained all of this knowledge on the job and then eventually took over the business and started his or her own business and one thing that was shared with me earlier is the name royal motors came from the type writer where mr. hansen was typing his first respondence and since it was a royal type retire, he decided to use the royal name and so great story and years ago i'm happy to hear there is a new auto row on south of van nest and we louvre the 20 or 30 p v r jobs that this particular auto related business is going to create ask perhaps in time, will start to rethink our attitude about cars and be accepting about the fact that people have cars and provide jobs for many of our citizen and is they might as well buy them here and as them services in san francisco. >> commissioner sag guya. >>> yes, i have always wandered, i guess for a lo
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